[The_iHenry]

@justin144 what's your hoc? What about weed control?

After scalping the Bermuda, I'll probably try to cut the PRG around .5" or possibly a little higher depending on how it looks. I want it low. For weeds, any current weeds I have now should die as temps drop, and the winter weeds I will just spot spray (not sure with what yet) as they come up.

I was mowing at .25 all season. I raised my HOC to .375 today so I can scalp and verticut before the PRG. I plan on doing one more celsius app as soon as it gets here.

 

[justin144]

I was mowing at .25 all season. I raised my HOC to .375 today so I can scalp and verticut before the PRG. I plan on doing one more celsius app as soon as it gets here.

Yeah, the Celcius label does mention it can be used on Bermuda before overseeding with Rye, but I don't know why that would be needed, because warm season weeds should die on their own. I must be missing something..

 

[Steverino]

I will scalp, run the verticutter and apply Primo Maxx... not anything else I can think of at the moment. Last year it was tough keeping the water on it because I only have hoses and no irrigation. I did a section at a time... I'll be doing that again....
I used primo maxx growth regulator on the PRG (perennial rye grass) last year along with FEature iron. It was great and while I can't tell you the regulation I was getting, I liked it.
Hardest part will be pulling the trigger on nuking it next spring because I really like the look of the rye stripes. I know better where to do that and where to leave it year round now, though.
All this depends on me getting the yard cleaned up from a fence install. I've got debris and rocks to clean up... I'm afraid to even cut! All this with kids, work and hunting season is coming on, too!

 

[Wfrobinette]

Thanks @Wfrobinette for the links! I think I'll just use the Ewings Eagle prg. Good price and easy to just pick up!

I here ya. This was expensive but should have the need for any chems to knock it out.

 

[Slim 1938]

I'm really wanting to overseed my backyard bermuda with perrenial rye and I have a question. Would it be ok to mow perrenial rye with a rotary riding mower or would it be to heavy? I dont own a reel at the moment.

 

[Steverino]

I think that is more typical up north than a reel mow. I should be fine as long as you wait for the first cut. It was painful my first cut last year and I believe I used my rotary (walk behind). I do remember when I used a reel it was pulling some out at the beginning of establishment. I think the vacume of the rotary was better at the long leggy first cut....

 

[William]

Probably a dumb question. I presume you seed every year?

 

[Slim 1938]

I think that is more typical up north than a reel mow. I should be fine as long as you wait for the first cut. It was painful my first cut last year and I believe I used my rotary (walk behind). I do remember when I used a reel it was pulling some out at the beginning of establishment. I think the vacume of the rotary was better at the long leggy first cut....

That makes sense. Thanks!

 

[Steverino]

Probably a dumb question. I presume you seed every year?

This year will only be my second year, but yes. The general idea is to seed it in the fall, have green rye grass through the cold months, kill it off in the spring to let the bermuda come back for the hot months. The better the rye cultivars, the better the look.

 

[lucas287]

Just throwing this out there...research bluemuda. There's a few threads on this forum as well as various publications, opinions, etc out there. Even search #bluemuda on Instagram.

Turf Blue HGT by Barenbrug is used primarily for blending into bermuda because it's a lighter green and has the heat/drought tolerance to hang in throughoutsummer.

According to various turf managers they stopped spraying out their rye completely and just let them commingle then whenever the bluemuda concept hit the market they overseed with kbg instead of prg and never looked back.

I've now bought 10# of turf blue hgt and will be trying this out this fall! Only in my backyard though. It has the best chance of surviving with all the shade i have.

 

[MWH]

@lucas287 Where did you find a 10# bag at? I can only find 50# online. Thanks!

 

[lucas287]

@lucas287 Where did you find a 10# bag at? I can only find 50# online. Thanks!

I bought two 5 pounders! https://sodsolutions.com/product/hgt-turf-blue-grass-seed-yellow-jacket/

 

[Bmossin]

@MWH @lucas287 please document this well with lots of pictures...Do you think the Turf Blue HGT will die out in the Texas summer, or will you spray it out in the spring when the bermuda wakes up, or are you planning on having a mix year round?

 

[lucas287]

@Bmossin I started a lawn journal to document everything! Don't want to thread jack worse than I already have

 

[latitude36]

Tip of the cap to all the people doing this over winter. I love my lawn and think dark rye grass is a good as it gets however; after mowing 3-5 times per week all summer--Equipment and my self need an off season. I m thinking of doing the spray paint that looks like Rye @Mid October.

 

[Steverino]

Tip of the cap to all the people doing this over winter. I love my lawn and think dark rye grass is a good as it gets however; after mowing 3-5 times per week all summer--Equipment and my self need an off season. I m thinking of doing the spray paint that looks like Rye @Mid October.

Winter rye care really involves very little maintenance after it has been established and the cold sets in for my area. It basically stopped growing from January through March so I did not do much. I had no pre-emergant down and had a few weeds pop up but not too much. I am thinking to use the pre-emergant after it is established this year so it would not even have much of the winter weeds if I do. I got the break during those months last year, but it was some work and stress of wondering if if would establish and work out when I first overseeded.

 

[cglarsen]

Tip of the cap to all the people doing this over winter. I love my lawn and think dark rye grass is a good as it gets however; after mowing 3-5 times per week all summer--Equipment and my self need an off season. I m thinking of doing the spray paint that looks like Rye @Mid October.

Winter rye care really involves very little maintenance after it has been established and the cold sets in for my area. It basically stopped growing from January through March so I did not do much. I had no pre-emergant down and had a few weeds pop up but not too much. I am thinking to use the pre-emergant after it is established this year so it would not even have much of the winter weeds if I do. I got the break during those months last year, but it was some work and stress of wondering if if would establish and work out when I first overseeded.

Yes I too was thinking pre-em after seeding PRG to control winter weeds. Just not sure that it will be in time to prevent Poa annual since it wants to germinate around the same time that ryegrass likes too.

 

[The_iHenry]

I just put down some Celsius on Sunday. Hopefully it doesn't effect the PRG in October 😕

 

[justin144]

Why would it? Celcius is not a pre emergent.

 

[The_iHenry]

Why would it? Celcius is not a pre emergent.

The label says not to use it on PRG.