New Zeon Desperately Need help

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New Zeon Desperately Need help

Post by chrishouse »

Sodded my yard about 4 weeks ago with zeon and desperately need help. Pics are attached.

I did put down topsoil before sod, except on some of the overage where unexpectedly had sod left over.

I did not use herbicide before putting down the sod.

All Sod has been watered equally. Most of the photos show back yard which faces west with no tree line, so it gets a LOT of sun. Some places are fine while right next to it the sod never greened up, but each had equal sun and water.

Notice at the end of the back yard, shaded area is almost full.

Front yard is shaded by tree line and house, it looks very good.

Other than keeping it watered, what else can I do?

Also, getting lots of weeds, what is best product to use for weeds on new sod?

The Sod farm suggested I not fertilize the new sod, is this correct?

Should I cut the grass now or wait?
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Re: New Zeon Desperately Need help

Post by LoCutt »

If the sod wasn't green when it was put down, then it had been sitting for a while. Fresh sod does better.

Soil drainage is not always uniform, and the brown spots might be areas where the underlying soil drains better. Since the ground is sloped, there's not much you can do other than water. Unfortunately sometimes this causes other areas downhill from the brown spots to be soggy.

You just have to water it, but depending on how long the sod was stored before installation, you may be fighting a losing battle. Good luck.

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@chrishouse where abouts are you in Alabama? Looks like Huntsville area. Great lookout.

What else ground prep work was done here? It might be that those sections that died are sitting on solid rock. That brown sod is toast as far as it looks to me. Also if it’s been 4 weeks check the sod to see if you can lift it up. If not, time to mow.
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So the sunnier areas are struggling (in general)? if so, i would assume it dried out (lack of water). WHat was your watering schedule and approach like that first week? I see a hose - was that the "how"?

it could wake up (watered consistently enough) or it could be toast, i don't know how dry it got and for how long.

Wow, what a lot you have!

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LoCutt wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:04 pm
If the sod wasn't green when it was put down, then it had been sitting for a while. Fresh sod does better.

Soil drainage is not always uniform, and the brown spots might be areas where the underlying soil drains better. Since the ground is sloped, there's not much you can do other than water. Unfortunately sometimes this causes other areas downhill from the brown spots to be soggy.

You just have to water it, but depending on how long the sod was stored before installation, you may be fighting a losing battle. Good luck.
Thanks for the input.

Sod was cut the afternoon before it was put down and was green at first.

Ground underneath the topsoil is very sandy, drains well, so I doubt much standing water.

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Re: New Zeon Desperately Need help

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Rammy1546 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:45 pm
@chrishouse where abouts are you in Alabama? Looks like Huntsville area. Great lookout.

What else ground prep work was done here? It might be that those sections that died are sitting on solid rock. That brown sod is toast as far as it looks to me. Also if it’s been 4 weeks check the sod to see if you can lift it up. If not, time to mow.
I am actually in Pelham, just south of B'ham.

The ground was cleared and top soil was put down first. That is all the prep. Actually at the far edge of the yard is where the new soil is deepest.

There is definitely rock under the yard, but all was covered by topsoil.

The green pieces can't be pulled up, the brown ones can, that is why I am not sure if I should cut or not.
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Re: New Zeon Desperately Need help

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jayhawk wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:03 pm
So the sunnier areas are struggling (in general)? if so, i would assume it dried out (lack of water). WHat was your watering schedule and approach like that first week? I see a hose - was that the "how"?

it could wake up (watered consistently enough) or it could be toast, i don't know how dry it got and for how long.

Wow, what a lot you have!
The problem I have with "it dried out" was that all sod got equal water and sun. I watered with sprinklers and also hand watered (soaked) each piece with hose.

I guess all I can do is keep watering and hope.

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Re: New Zeon Desperately Need help

Post by Spammage »

@chrishouse you need to cut the growing grass. As far as the pieces that never greened up, they appear to be dead vs just being dormant. Check them to see if they've rooted at all. If not then it's likely a lost cause, but if you see any signs of life, you can start applying water multiple times per day to keep the sod and the soil beneath it both moist.

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I didn't explain my point very well. I apologize.

The drainage, especially in new construction, can vary greatly between areas in a lawn and this problem is exacerbated by slopes. An adequate amount of water for one area might not be adequate for another. The same is true for how often the turf should be watered.

Good luck

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Sorry, off topic, but that view is amazing!

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Re: New Zeon Desperately Need help

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Cdub5_ wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:23 pm
Sorry, off topic, but that view is amazing!
Thank you, though I can't take credit, it was that way when I got here.

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Ok, maybe there is some hope. As I look at some (not all) of the worst pieces, I see some green sprigs still beginning to pop up.
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chrishouse wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:24 pm
Sodded my yard about 4 weeks ago with zeon and desperately need help. Pics are attached.

I did put down topsoil before sod, except on some of the overage where unexpectedly had sod left over.

I did not use herbicide before putting down the sod.

All Sod has been watered equally. Most of the photos show back yard which faces west with no tree line, so it gets a LOT of sun. Some places are fine while right next to it the sod never greened up, but each had equal sun and water.

Notice at the end of the back yard, shaded area is almost full.

Front yard is shaded by tree line and house, it looks very good.

Other than keeping it watered, what else can I do?

Also, getting lots of weeds, what is best product to use for weeds on new sod?

The Sod farm suggested I not fertilize the new sod, is this correct?

Should I cut the grass now or wait?
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That a beautiful view you have. I thought it was shades crest overlooking the valley where Ross Bridge is at first.
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Re: New Zeon Desperately Need help

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ZachUA wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:05 am
chrishouse wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:24 pm
Sodded my yard about 4 weeks ago with zeon and desperately need help. Pics are attached.

I did put down topsoil before sod, except on some of the overage where unexpectedly had sod left over.

I did not use herbicide before putting down the sod.

All Sod has been watered equally. Most of the photos show back yard which faces west with no tree line, so it gets a LOT of sun. Some places are fine while right next to it the sod never greened up, but each had equal sun and water.

Notice at the end of the back yard, shaded area is almost full.

Front yard is shaded by tree line and house, it looks very good.

Other than keeping it watered, what else can I do?

Also, getting lots of weeds, what is best product to use for weeds on new sod?

The Sod farm suggested I not fertilize the new sod, is this correct?

Should I cut the grass now or wait?
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That a beautiful view you have. I thought it was shades crest overlooking the valley where Ross Bridge is at first.
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