Need advice from lawn renovation gurus. (centipede)

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Need advice from lawn renovation gurus. (centipede)

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Just moved into a new place. Not thrilled with the current condition of the yard. Several bare spots, a lot of weeds, primarily just one weed I forget the name of but know it's not easy to eradicate. What would be the best plan of action for this coming fall and spring without doing a complete renovation? Any advice is appreciated. I have a basic understanding of what to do for well established lawns but not ones where serious work needs to be done.
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Close up. As you can see there is some moss growing in the bare spots, this is also the case for a lot of area in my back yard. I have about 30 large trees in the majority of my back yard where I won't even attempt to grow grass or sustain any type of turf, but there are several bare spots like in the 1st photo that have moss growing.
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This weed is covering at least 60$ of my lawn front and back.

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We haven't had actually rain in weeks, everything is so dry and I don't have the means to keep up with irrigation for this amount of sqr footage right now.

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Get a soil test. Figure out what it would take to install automatic irrigation. When I see a lawn in that shape, it traces back to nutritional and irrigation issues. Tertiary is how it is mowed.

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Is that spurge?
I may not have the best lawn and I may not have a clue what I’m doing but that’s pretty much all I have to say.

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TN Hawkeye wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:05 pm
Is that spurge?
yea just did some research. Spurge is the most troublesom weed for centipede

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A lot of spurge is an indicator weed for Nematodes. I do not see a lot of spurge in lawns that seem to need a lot of mowing in spite of minimal water or fertilizer. See a lot of spurge and Nutsedge in lawns that are thin and weak in spite of a lot of attention.

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Try to reach out to your county extension and get someone out there. You'd be surprised what they can do for you. You have the signs of nematodes as greendoc said, huge issue in my area of Florida. Hard to say for sure without soil/nematode tests. Msm turf is a good pre and post for spurge if I remember right, mind the trees. Centipede can be great and if test come back decent you can bring up to par easily.

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You are not S O L if Nematodes are a problem. In the last 5 years, the toxic Nematicides I used to use 20 years ago have been replaced by more user friendly products.

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I think that weed is lespedeza.

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lambert wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:25 pm
I think that weed is lespedeza.
wow this looks extremely identical to spurge, but after looking at many pics of lespedeza, I think you're right. What I have looks more like that.

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Lespedeza will have more of a woody stem and stand up higher than spurge. Spurge is usually low to the ground and has softer stems. I have lespedeza, spotted spurge, and prostate spurge in my yard but the spurge is the hardest to control this year.

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Hopefully someone will correct me if I’m wrong but left to right: leapedeza, prostate spurge, spotted spurge.

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I feel like I'm going in circles, :lol:

It's gotta be one of those types of spurge.

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The good thing is that you treat them all the same regardless. Celcius works though this year the spurge has been a little resilient.

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Greendoc wrote:
Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:00 pm
You are not S O L if Nematodes are a problem. In the last 5 years, the toxic Nematicides I used to use 20 years ago have been replaced by more user friendly products.
Which nematicides do you recommend? I remember you mentioning exteris. I think everything else is prohibitively expensive for the normal homeowner.

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Nimitz Pro G is another product that is reasonably priced. Comes in a package size that is not intended for an entire golf course.

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Looks like what I had. MSM Turf killed it easily.
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That's lespedeza.

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