Leveling a Bermuda Lawn

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Re: Leveling a Bermuda Lawn

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ladycage wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:22 am
What is the best temp range for Bermuda to grow in?
drewwitt wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:54 pm
It’s bermuda. It will be fine. Once temps drop a little in September it will go crazy.
https://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/pla ... rmuda.html According to this, the optimum daytime temperature for Bermuda growth is 95°-100° F.

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Re: Leveling a Bermuda Lawn

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i know its to late now to take on this project, but next spring i want to level my lawn. i dont have a reel mower at the moment only rotary. but it doesnt seem to cut as low as i need it too. any recommendations on rotary mower that would cut lawn shorter lengths. or would you only use a reel mower for this type of project.

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Re: Leveling a Bermuda Lawn

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jpos34 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:59 am
i know its to late now to take on this project, but next spring i want to level my lawn. i dont have a reel mower at the moment only rotary. but it doesnt seem to cut as low as i need it too. any recommendations on rotary mower that would cut lawn shorter lengths. or would you only use a reel mower for this type of project.
I think the Honda rotary mowers cut as low as .75”. I’m sure somebody will chime in.

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Thanks for the info. My bermuda may have time to fill in after quinclorac application the other day. Temps are still in the high 80s lows 90s but little rain.
tcorbitt20 wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:43 am
ladycage wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:22 am
What is the best temp range for Bermuda to grow in?
drewwitt wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:54 pm
It’s bermuda. It will be fine. Once temps drop a little in September it will go crazy.
https://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/pla ... rmuda.html According to this, the optimum daytime temperature for Bermuda growth is 95°-100° F.

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Re: Leveling a Bermuda Lawn

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tcorbitt20 wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:43 am
ladycage wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:22 am
What is the best temp range for Bermuda to grow in?
drewwitt wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:54 pm
It’s bermuda. It will be fine. Once temps drop a little in September it will go crazy.
https://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/pla ... rmuda.html According to this, the optimum daytime temperature for Bermuda growth is 95°-100° F.
Awesome article! Read threw and noticed that it calls for .07” of irrigation a day in order to reach that optimal growth in that temp range though. Thanks for sharing brother!
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Re: Leveling a Bermuda Lawn

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Re: Leveling a Bermuda Lawn

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tcorbitt20 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 6:57 am
jpos34 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:59 am
i know its to late now to take on this project, but next spring i want to level my lawn. i dont have a reel mower at the moment only rotary. but it doesnt seem to cut as low as i need it too. any recommendations on rotary mower that would cut lawn shorter lengths. or would you only use a reel mower for this type of project.
I think the Honda rotary mowers cut as low as .75”. I’m sure somebody will chime in.
The HRR only cuts down to 1 & 1/8". I believe the HRX goes down to .75"

@jpos34
I don't own a reel either. I used my rotary and cut at the lowest setting, which is 1 & 1/8". It definitely seemed more difficult to spread the sand around than what I'd seen in other folks' videos. Even when with my neighbor's ATV, I could tell that it didnt look like the sand was spreading like in the videos I used as reference. But it is do-able.
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jpos34 wrote:
Sun Sep 01, 2019 5:59 am
i know its to late now to take on this project, but next spring i want to level my lawn. i dont have a reel mower at the moment only rotary. but it doesnt seem to cut as low as i need it too. any recommendations on rotary mower that would cut lawn shorter lengths. or would you only use a reel mower for this type of project.
When the time comes, are you referring to scalping before leveling? Take it down to the dirt if you want to. String trimmer if needed.

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Question I'm in Central Louisiana and I always get river sand. Is there a better sand to ask the haulers for????
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I've read that masonry sand is the best. I get what the hauler calls yellow sand and it costs about 1/5 of what masonry costs. It has some debris in it that I have to pick out though not too much. It's no where near as bad as some of the sand I have seen others get on this board.

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Leveling Question:

Our house sits up probably 10-12 feet from the road. That means that my front yard is a bit of a hill. Would it be a waste of time to try and level it? Just trying to level any ruts or high spots. Is the sand just going to fall down the hill when it rains? I’ve added a picture of the front yard to give y’all an idea.
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I don’t see why you couldn’t smooth it out a little at a time so that the grass you have holds it in place. I would do about 1/2 to 3/4 yard per 1000 and drag it in well. It will take a few apps but it beats cleaning the sand off of your driveway and sidewalks. Smoothing out turf is a multi-year endeavor anyway.

Not trying to be Captain Obvious but you’ll want to wait until it starts growing strong next spring.

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Re: Leveling a Bermuda Lawn

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Redtwin wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:34 pm
Not trying to be Captain Obvious but you’ll want to wait until it starts growing strong next spring.
:D Yes. I’m just doing some thinking for next year.

That is great advice though. I could just take it slow in the front yard. The side and back are fairly flat so, not as much of a concern with them.

Thanks

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Re: Leveling a Bermuda Lawn

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Khs2424 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 4:55 pm
Leveling Question:

Our house sits up probably 10-12 feet from the road. That means that my front yard is a bit of a hill. Would it be a waste of time to try and level it? Just trying to level any ruts or high spots. Is the sand just going to fall down the hill when it rains? I’ve added a picture of the front yard to give y’all an idea.
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I wouldn't scalp it too low prior to leveling. If there is still grass poking above to hold the sand, it will erode less.

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Here's my scenario/setup.

I'm in North Texas, and I've got bermuda grass that's about 3 years old planted from sod squares (poorly, by a budget builder, laid/planted in December). Our ground is very clay based and shale below that I believe.

Total front/rear is about 1/6 to 1/7 of an acre

It's got bumps and mounds and holes and just doesn't cut even. The mower wheels fall in and leave marks, I trip and fall walking sometimes, as it can be up to an inch or more in some places

My mower is a standard push mower, electric (Dewalt brand), and only has a single height adjustment setting (5 heights, one lever does front/rear together). I don't plan on changing this equipment out (not looking for more equipment investment if I can help it at all)

I want to level the front and rear come spring. From my reading, I believe I need to be scalping it in spring as low as I can, getting a giant pile of sand (still determining the type from my reading) and spread it out evenly with some sort of heavy flat thing (lawn leveler tool of some sort).

I also believe I shouldn't be mixing any sort of compost or other material with my sand - just use sand. I'm aware it may look weird for a bit while the grass grows through, but when it does it will be level, the soil will fill in itself somehow within the sand so it's not just grass in sand somehow?

Any tips or thoughts or things I should figure out first?

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Re: Leveling a Bermuda Lawn

Post by Kicker »

Wait till the lawn is growing vigorously for the quickest recovery.
Use mason sand only (roughly one cubic yard per 1000 sq. ft. of lawn)
Fertilize and water, water, water after the topdress/level.
You can use a landscape rake if you're wanting to keep equipment costs to a minimum.

The soil doesn't do anything with the sand, some may make it's way into the top layer of the soil but the grass grows through the sand. The sand is what's making it level. Don't expect this to be a one time thing. It'll need to be an annual/ bi-annual thing to achieve a level surface.

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Re: Leveling a Bermuda Lawn

Post by DigitalCK »

Just checking back on that value...

1/7 of an acre is around 6000 sqft, so 6 cubic yards.... which is about 15,000 lbs of sand... that seems pretty insane... could that possibly be correct? Or is it not as big (visually) as it seems (in my head)?

I think the other thing to note, my grass has a thick root structure that is visible above the ground, rather than a "recessed" appearance I see from others. If I raise the levels of EVERYTHING it doesn't have much room for height growth before being a bit crazy...

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It's a lot of sand but it will disappear faster than you think. If you plan on aerating and removing cores before hand, you may even need a bit more.
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I have 6k sqft of Bermuda im going to level soon. I do not have a reel mower that will go lower than about 1” so i plan on scalping as best and as low as best i can with my string trimmer. I will be using pump sand to do the leveling and plan on getting 8-10 yards and a bobcat to spread it then a drag mat to finish it off to its final grade. Mortar sand is $40/yard and the pump sand is $20/yard

I plan on doing this at the end of March/early April. The day length will be at 12+ hrs and the soil temps should be around 65-70 degrees. Anyone see anything wrong with this plan? Im in south Louisiana

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