T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Warm season grasses like Bermuda, Zoysia, St. Augustine, Centipede & Paspalum
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T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by iFisch3224 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:01 pm

Getting my thread together for T-Nex applications, pictures, results, etc. on 4" St Aug grass.


Goal: see if I can get carpet-like, much denser St Aug. I'm not applying this to control/limit top growth. I'm fine with mowing 2x week on my lawn. My main objective is to purely find out if I can essentially shrink the noids resulting in a plusher, denser St Aug grass type.

I will be posting as frequently as I can with any results I see. Being in the location I am, we should still see good growth for another 6-8 weeks, depending on if the "cool" weather rolls in this year or not.

Going to start with recommended dose first, and tweak as I see fit.


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Re: T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by Redtenchu » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:09 pm

Following, please include some close up pictures of before and after.
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Re: T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by iFisch3224 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:15 pm

Redtenchu wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:09 pm
Following, please include some close up pictures of before and after.
Sure. When you say close up, would you like a close up like this?

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And how often would it be wise for updates? Every 7 days? I know it typically lasts about 3 weeks.

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Re: T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by iFisch3224 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:17 pm

Looking for suggestions, so this can appeal to many folks. Too frequent, might not be enough time to see visible changes, infrequent might be too long between before an app and post app.

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Re: T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by Redtenchu » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:40 pm

This close or more.
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It’ll take a few days before you notice much, so maybe every 5-7 days for an update.

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Re: T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by Redtenchu » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:42 pm

I don’t think you can update too much.

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Post by iFisch3224 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:45 pm

Well, I'll certainly try. That is pretty close. Very, very curious if/how this will work out.

Should I start off at normal dosing, or maybe bump it up to like 1.25x app rates, since my lawn type is not as naturally dense as most folks that use PGR?

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Post by iFisch3224 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:14 pm

Planning on taking photos of the same 2,3,4 spots week after week for progression pictures, as well as random lawn pictures to keep things moving.

In addition to my personal thoughts, feeling, visual impact.

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Post by thatlawnguy » Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:25 pm

Thanks for doing this and sharing your results Nick. I look forward to seeing how the St. Aug looks with PGR and hearing your thoughts as the experiment progresses.

-tlg

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Re: T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by iFisch3224 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:22 pm

thatlawnguy wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 8:25 pm
Thanks for doing this and sharing your results Nick. I look forward to seeing how the St. Aug looks with PGR and hearing your thoughts as the experiment progresses.

-tlg
TLG - 10-4 sir. :thumbup:


Application rates per the T-Nex PDF file is .10-.15oz/1k - going to see what measuring devices I have, and what I can more accurately measure - planning on between .6oz/yard [.17oz/1k] and .8oz/yard [.22oz/1k] depending on which liquid volume I can measure better.

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Re: T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by Reel Low Dad » Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:09 am

This looks like a fun experiment. If all goes well I may have to try this on my moms yard.

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Re: T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by iFisch3224 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 3:28 am

I don't know if the remainder of the growing season is enough time, to come to or make a full conclusion, but 2018 was a late year for me. I didn't find the YT videos and forum until late Spring/early Summer.

But, with at least 8 more weeks of decent growing season, and the grass may even go into November or December if the weather holds up. Few years ago I remember it being in the low 80's for Christmas.

However, I will document, and add commentary to my findings, thoughts, processes, etc.

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Re: T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by iFisch3224 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 6:57 pm

Got rained out today, plan on applying tomorrow morning 630am-7am dew heavy application. :)

Keep ya posted with more photos tomorrow if weather clears.

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Re: T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by iFisch3224 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:14 am

09/03/2018

Good morning ya'll.

Applied JUST a slight more amount, because I could get an exact measurement, vs "getting close".

Also threw down my Screamin' Green fert sample (2,000sq ft) this morning before the T-Nex. Went slightly under the "light application" recommendations, because I threw down a light dose (1 bag for ~3,500sq ft, instead of recommended 2,500sqft instructions) of Milo about 2.5-3 weeks ago. Keeping the fert often, but light.


Thoughts? Opinions? I took 4 "closeup" shots, from 4 different spots. Might not look it in some pictures, but took 1 side picture, 2 front pictures (lush area, and area my neighbor 'oversprayed'/dumped something by HIS water meter that's under repair/construction. Curious how this will help the grass fill in, or not.

For reference I will post 4 "closeup"/"hand" pictures ALWAYS in this order:

Left side house
Left side of center yard
Problem area
Thinner area back yard



Enjoy..


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And some general lawn pictures this morning.

Left side of yard:



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Re: T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by iFisch3224 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:38 pm

Well, the "little" storm rolled through around 1, 1:30 this afternoon - dumped over 1.5" of rain today - hope the few hours prior were enough for it to absorb and dry through the foliar. I believe it will, but not ever using this before, and getting THAT much rain, I hope we will be ok.


How long does this typically take, to show effects? 3,4,7 days? I mean I'll know by Wednesday if I need to mow again (still on the 2x a week regime).

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Re: T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by Spammage » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:17 pm

Well, I can't speak to applications to St Augustine, but my zoysia usually starts showing regulation by day 4 and after the next cut after that, you should definitely be able to tell. You will certainly need to cut on Wednesday, but by Sunday, you will hopefully notice a difference.

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Post by thatlawnguy » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:27 pm

The label indicates it is rainfast after 1 hour and right inline with Spammage full regulation in 3-5 days. :thumbup:

-tlg

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Re: T-Nex PGR St Aug Experiment

Post by iFisch3224 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:33 pm

thatlawnguy wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:27 pm
The label indicates it is rainfast after 1 hour and right inline with Spammage full regulation in 3-5 days. :thumbup:

-tlg
I noticed that, but also read on here that others are reporting 3-4hrs for rainfast. Figured the label is the more accurate info.

Can't wait to see what happens. :)

And yes, Wednesday and Sundays are my days to cut (permitting weather). :)

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Post by Zoysiaguy » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:55 pm

Beautiful lawn and home you built nice work keep it up ! I just recently added the bio stimulant package to my lawn and t-nex aswell. :thumbup:
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Post by TN Hawkeye » Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:17 pm

iFisch3224 wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:33 pm
thatlawnguy wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:27 pm
The label indicates it is rainfast after 1 hour and right inline with Spammage full regulation in 3-5 days. :thumbup:

-tlg
I noticed that, but also read on here that others are reporting 3-4hrs for rainfast. Figured the label is the more accurate info.

Can't wait to see what happens. :)

And yes, Wednesday and Sundays are my days to cut (permitting weather). :)
Judging from the pics I would guess you had a few hours of Florida sun before it rained? I would say that is plenty for it to be rainfast. Even with the humidity being high that sun will dry out almost anything. I remember hanging out clothes in high humidity and them being dry in a couple hours. That Florida sun will dry almost everything except for the sweaty clothes you’re wearing.
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