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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by kolbasz » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:42 am

sweet, time to order some parts. Up my sprayer game. Honestly, the one thing that makes me most crazy is the hose/wand on any sprayer. Makes storage so annoying. Upgrading to a removable wand/hose will make storage so mush better.

Its the little things...

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by Ware » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:53 am

kolbasz wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:42 am
...Upgrading to a removable wand/hose will make storage so mush better.
Now the basic dfw_wand outlined in the OP is not easily removed. There are some posts around here somewhere about some quick detach options, but I'm not sure if anyone has done it. Is that what you are talking about?

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by kolbasz » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:48 am

yes.

It seems there is 2 types of quick disconnect. One uses the power washed method and it seems another is threaded, but still called quick disconnect.

Only issue with the power washer type is I can only find SS and not brass.

But, I think the fix is 2 threaded pieced to threaded power washer types.

so, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Power-Care- ... /100664031

and

2 of these: https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/69929

My only concern would be weight, but with 4 gallons of water, what is 2 extra fittings.

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by Ware » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:00 am

kolbasz wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:48 am
yes...
Anxious to see it - I remember discussing it, but I don't recall if anyone ever actually did it. :thumbup:

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by DJLCN » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:31 am

Ware wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:00 am
kolbasz wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:48 am
yes...
Anxious to see it - I remember discussing it, but I don't recall if anyone ever actually did it. :thumbup:
I did. I’ll take some pics tonight.

I used this swivel

http://www.sprayerdepot.com/Shop-by-Cat ... gs/1199010

And these quick connects

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JJBNXZY?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

I also picked up these caps to plug the end of the hoses I wasn’t using

http://www.spraysmarter.com/banjo-1-4-poly-cap.html

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by Ware » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:40 pm

DJLCN wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:31 am
I did. I’ll take some pics tonight...
Good deal - anxious to see the pics. Being able to move a dfw_wand between a backpack and a smaller handheld sprayer would help take the sting away from the price tag. :thumbup:

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Quick Detach

Post by dfw_pilot » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:47 pm

Ware wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:40 pm
Good deal - anxious to see the pics. Being able to move a dfw_wand between a backpack and a smaller handheld sprayer would help take the sting away from the price tag. :thumbup:
Very much so!
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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by DJLCN » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:18 pm

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With the quick connects you really don’t need the swivel but I wasn’t able to find a way to convert from 1/4" FNPS without it.

The pressure washer quick connects do not have a valve in them like air hose quick connects do. Thus the reason I bought the caps and used the extra male quick connects as plugs for the sprayers I’m not using.

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by kolbasz » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:53 am

Do we need brass or is steel safe?

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by DJLCN » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:45 pm

kolbasz wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:53 am
Do we need brass or is steel safe?
The set I used is plated steel on the male quick connect. In hindsight I should have bought both ends in brass like this set

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GN51OIS/re ... DAbGWNWQHG
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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by kolbasz » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:42 am

Want to understand what is meant by rotation of the tip. Does this mean free spinning or just a horizontal to vertical switch.

Asking because with my default tip, I remove it to clean and then next use I unscrew it twist it and adjust.

Jast trying to determine if this is making my life easier (less lazy) or if it serves a different purpose.

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by Ware » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:44 am

kolbasz wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:42 am
Want to understand what is meant by rotation of the tip. Does this mean free spinning or just a horizontal to vertical switch.

Asking because with my default tip, I remove it to clean and then next use I unscrew it twist it and adjust.

Jast trying to determine if this is making my life easier (less lazy) or if it serves a different purpose.
Sorry for the confusion, let me try to better explain...

Here is the catalog page for ordering Quick TeeJet Caps, where you can see that the 25612-*-NYR (where * denotes the color code) is the recommended cap and gasket set for many of the nozzle types we discuss in the TeeJet Nozzle Discussion thread (XR, TT, AIXR, etc). The 25612-*-NYR does not have a round hole in the end of it - it is slotted to fit the nozzles it was designed for:

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When you fully engage this cap (with the nozzle and gasket installed) onto the lugs of the QJT-NYB nozzle body, you end up with the nozzle oriented in a specific direction. To change that orientation, you would need to tighten or loosen the QJT-NYB on the CF Valve:

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If you never want to change the orientation of your nozzle, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this setup - just tighten the QJT-NYB onto the CF valve to get your desired orientation, then the Quick TeeJet Cap will index to that spot every single time you install it. This is the way TeeJet intended for them to be used, and is why they call them "quick caps".

If however you are used to being able to make slight adjustments to the orientation of your nozzle, like you could with this Turbo TeeJet in the cap of an OEM Chapin wand:

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Then you would want to choose a Quick TeeJet Cap with a round hole in the end like this 25608-*-NYR:

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The bottom line is this is just sort of a "hack". If you are unsure, or concerned about fit, I would highly recommend just ordering the cap and gasket that is recommended by TeeJet on the catalog page linked above.

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by kolbasz » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:27 pm

This makes more sense.

I assume I always want a flat fan, left to right.

With my current setup I loosen the cap and twist the tip to align it.

So I assume I need the first one, where the quick cap will put the tip in the same static position every time without the need to fiddle with it. Just twist on and go. Right?

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by kolbasz » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:11 pm

Received my brass quick disconnects today. Only negative I see is the added weight.

Waiting on the rest of the parts

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by high leverage » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:19 pm

kolbasz wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:11 pm
Received my brass quick disconnects today. Only negative I see is the added weight.

Waiting on the rest of the parts
Unless you are an ultra light backpacker or do this for a living an ounce or two will never be noticed. When you find a way to reduce the weight of water let me know. Lol
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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by Ware » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:19 am

kolbasz wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:11 pm
Received my brass quick disconnects today. Only negative I see is the added weight.

Waiting on the rest of the parts
Which QD set did you go with?

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by kolbasz » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:40 pm

Do people change the hose to make it longer or of a different material, etc?

Also, what are those hose clamps called that they use. Do I need a specific tool to crimp them? Is there a preferred hose clamp?

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by kolbasz » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:48 pm

Ware wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:19 am
kolbasz wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:11 pm
Received my brass quick disconnects today. Only negative I see is the added weight.

Waiting on the rest of the parts
Which QD set did you go with?
Apache 98441024 3/8" Quick Disconnect Pressure Washer Adapter Set https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GN51RB2/re ... IAbNK94GPJ

And then I got 2 of these:

Anderson Metals 57001 Brass Hose Fitting, Adapter, 3/8" Barb x 3/8" NPT Male Pipe https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005DSTC6W/re ... IAbQCYEMYW

Debating location and configuration.

Sprayer, few inches hose, quick connect then hose and wand.

Or, put it closer to the wand somehow, maybe replace the swivel Barb with the quick connect. It does not spin as freely, but might be enough.

Decisions decisions, but I am leaning for closer to the sprayer.

I envision adapting to my 2 Gallon sprayers too. Just as the Barb fitting and half the quick connect and now I have a single good spray wand that is interchangeable on all my sprayers, backpack and 2 2 gallons.

That's the vision anyway.

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by crunk » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:24 pm

I just put together one of these wands. Thanks for the instructions. Really nice + even pattern, but I have a cheap hand sprayer Chapin 20000 Poly Lawn and Garden Sprayer without a pressure relief valve. This didn't bother me before I was using a cfv, because I could turn the sprayer upside down and relieve the pressure when I was done spraying. Now I have to slowly loosen the hand pump to relieve the pressure. So I'm thinking about getting one like dfw_pilot. Do you guys think it is worth it to get the Chapin 2 gal. Premier Poly Sprayer, since I already have a good wand? Or is the Chapin 26021XP 2-Gallon ProSeries pretty much the same but with a plastic wand? The Pro is about $15 cheaper.

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Re: Sprayer Wand

Post by Ware » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:37 pm

@crunk I would just buy the ProSeries.

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