N-Ext Products

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by NewLawnJon » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:58 pm

Phaseshift wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:42 pm
Does anyone have a custom mix or alternative to N-ext products for us here in California to use?
As of today you are in luck and can now get Next products.

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by ryeguy » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:38 pm

ktgrok wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:54 pm
ryeguy wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:04 am
Phaseshift wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:44 am


Yes I can, I actually ordered some the other day. Is there any difference between SLS and N-ext?
SLS is just soap, what n-ext product are you comparing it to?
He was using SLS to abbreviate Simple Lawn Solutions, the brand that makes an alternate product available to him, not to abbreviate Sodium Laureth Sulfate :)
Oh wow that makes way more sense. Especially since it's in the quoted text. My mind went to SLS because some people mention that along with air8.
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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by Phaseshift » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:22 am

NewLawnJon wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:58 pm
Phaseshift wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:42 pm
Does anyone have a custom mix or alternative to N-ext products for us here in California to use?
As of today you are in luck and can now get Next products.
Wait what? What do you mean?

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by lambert » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:27 am

Are y'all applying humic acid with systemic pesticides -- I've seen many youtubers do just that. After coming across this article I am concerned that that may be a detrimental practice:

https://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/new ... t4jun.html

From the article: "Both were studies that demonstrate how strongly humic acid can absorb fungicides and herbicides. Indications are that surface applications of humic acid or humate can significantly reduce the effectiveness of systemic pesticides by reducing their absorption by plant roots and soil-borne pathogens and insects."
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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by NewLawnJon » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:57 pm

Phaseshift wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:22 am
NewLawnJon wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:58 pm
Phaseshift wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:42 pm
Does anyone have a custom mix or alternative to N-ext products for us here in California to use?
As of today you are in luck and can now get Next products.
Wait what? What do you mean?
Green County Fertilizer can now ship all of their products to California, Idaho, Oregon, and Washington. They made the announcement on 8/1

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by Bigdrumnc » Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:49 am

So who is incorporating the 18-0-1 green punch into their tttf program? How much and how often? I am interested in it, but also afraid to under/ over applicants.
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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by cpVA » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:46 pm

I am using the green punch and really like it. Sprayed the max amount of 16oz/1000 without any issues. I believe at that application rate it is equal to 1/4 pound of nitrogen so it is forgiving. No need to worry about over or under applying. Recomend to spray in the evening and water in and mix it with the 0-0-2 microgreen. Also I am heading to the obx Monday to spray a yard and have extra if you need some. Im driving from VA so good chance you might be near my path.

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by Bigdrumnc » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:52 pm

Ok pm me

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by beardizzle1 » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:01 pm

How’s everyone feeling about the N-Ext products they’ve purchased? I purchased the Bio-Stim pack this year and seem to get good results. However, I don’t really have much to compare them to as it’s year 1 for me. Lawn has responded well to everything and I’ve had neighbors comment on the lawn.

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by Delmarva Keith » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:43 am

beardizzle1 wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:01 pm
How’s everyone feeling about the N-Ext products they’ve purchased? I purchased the Bio-Stim pack this year and seem to get good results. However, I don’t really have much to compare them to as it’s year 1 for me. Lawn has responded well to everything and I’ve had neighbors comment on the lawn.
Very hard to say due to lack of controls. My seat of the pants sense after trying the products is I get better quality and more resilient turf with less frequent fertilizer. Is it due to the Next products, different weather this year, the seed I used last Fall, moon phase, random chance . . . don’t know. My turf greened up earlier this year and has been doing much better than usual by this point of Summer. Well enough that I plan to skip the annual overseed ritual this Fall. Something is different from prior years and at least anecdotally points to the Next products.

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by beardizzle1 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:30 am

@Delmarva Keith that’s good to hear about your less frequent fert use.. that’s what the products are supposed to do as N-Ext stand for Nitrogen Extension.

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by mytmouse » Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:42 am

I'm interested on everyone's plan on what they're using in conjunction with seeding. I'm doing an overseed and was thinking about putting down air-8 6 oz per thousand this week. And RGS (3oz/k) and Humic (6 oz/k) the day before aerating or day of. I'm thinking of doing it right after I aerate to take advantage of the exposed soil. Too much? Just right?

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by ksturfguy » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:58 am

Delmarva Keith wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:43 am
beardizzle1 wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:01 pm
How’s everyone feeling about the N-Ext products they’ve purchased? I purchased the Bio-Stim pack this year and seem to get good results. However, I don’t really have much to compare them to as it’s year 1 for me. Lawn has responded well to everything and I’ve had neighbors comment on the lawn.
Very hard to say due to lack of controls. My seat of the pants sense after trying the products is I get better quality and more resilient turf with less frequent fertilizer. Is it due to the Next products, different weather this year, the seed I used last Fall, moon phase, random chance . . . don’t know. My turf greened up earlier this year and has been doing much better than usual by this point of Summer. Well enough that I plan to skip the annual overseed ritual this Fall. Something is different from prior years and at least anecdotally points to the Next products.
I'm kind of in same boat as you. This is my first year using it, my lawn looks better then last year but several factors most likely contributing to that. This summer is a lot better then last, I've mowed at 1/2 higher this summer than last. I've probably irrigated better this year as well. I've only been treating 8k sqft of my 20k sqft lawn with N-EXT products and I'll be honest visually I can't tell the difference in areas I've treated vs no treatment.

Below is a picture of my test plot. The right side has been receiving N-EXT products every month since April, the left side has just received my normal fert program. It's kind of hard to see now but there are 3 sections, far section is 100% TTTF, middle section is 100% KBG and closest section is a 90/10 mix. In both sections that contain fescue I see no difference in right side vs left. in KBG section it does appear less of it went dormant vs the left side. Again that might not all be N-EXT products though as the plot isn't perfectly even and does slope slightly from left to right so maybe moisture staying in the right side longer? Who knows

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by Jameshtx » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:25 am

beardizzle1 wrote:
Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:01 pm
How’s everyone feeling about the N-Ext products they’ve purchased? I purchased the Bio-Stim pack this year and seem to get good results. However, I don’t really have much to compare them to as it’s year 1 for me. Lawn has responded well to everything and I’ve had neighbors comment on the lawn.
How many applications did it take to see results? I'm receiving my bio pack tomorrow n excited to give it a try

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by beardizzle1 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 10:45 am

@Jameshtx it may not be necessarily a # of apps to consider on my part. This is the first year my lawn has received regular fert apps, so with that alone it looks better. It does seem like it stayed out of dormancy longer and bounced back quicker.

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by burnhagw » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:51 pm

Hey yall, I have two month old tifway bermuda sod, in NC. I was thinking of ordering the bistim package, but was wondering if it's too late in the season to put any of this stuff down? Would it be wiser to start fresh in the early spring or buy this and put 3oz of each product down now during fall? I threw down some milo about 2 weeks ago.

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by Josh5MS » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:51 pm

Does anyone have any cheaper alternatives that they have used that are similar to the N-ext products? I have a 36k square foot yard so the jugs of products don't last for very many applications and the price adds up quickly.

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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by Methodical » Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:41 pm

Josh5MS wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:51 pm
Does anyone have any cheaper alternatives that they have used that are similar to the N-ext products? I have a 36k square foot yard so the jugs of products don't last for very many applications and the price adds up quickly.
As far as Humic goes, there's a youtuber (Connor Ward) who uses 50lb bags of this stuff. He may be able to help you on that front.
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Re: N-Ext Products

Post by BubbaGrumpus » Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:47 pm

Check out kelp4less. Very similar products. Some of them have measurements/dilutions for reservoirs. Not sure how your spraying but sounds doable.

I’d call them and explain your situation. Good folks. Great customer service.

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