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Humbert's Common Bermuda to Tahoma 31 Sprigging

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With yesterday being my first app of Glyphosate on the Common Bermuda I figured this is a good time to start this new chapter for my sprigging process to Tahoma 31 next spring. Here are some pictures from 9/20/22 for reference.







 
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killacam said:
Are you going to overseed cool season grass soon? You probably need more than just glyphosate to get complete kill.
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I will not be overseeding anything this winter. I will be doing a full renovation throughout the winter into early spring before I sprig Tahoma 31 Bermuda.

- Bury downspouts to pop-up emitters

- Fall soil test to prep amendments for next years growing season

- Sand level/Re-grade with 21 yards of masonry sand

- Multiple apps of Glyphosate/Fusilade (Spaced 3-4 weeks apart)

- Fertilize before herbicide apps to promote growth and herbicide absorption

- Power rake all dead matter out of the lawn

- Final level dragging

- Sprig 8000 sq ft from 3 pallets of Tahoma 31 (sourced from Legacy Turf in Atlanta)
 
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Chadwicktr said:
Nice plan! Looking forward to seeing your results!
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Love seeing your results as well as Willy's. Y'all are the main driving factor in me deciding to do this after 6 short months with my seeded common…. Down the rabbit hole we go.
 
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First night time app for me and I really enjoyed it. Nice peace and quiet and much cooler. I think I will try more evening apps in the future! Just for good measure I went ahead and slapped my first round of Fusilade down and added MSO and full rate Glyphosate. That should really put a hurting on every thing as the Bermuda was hardly even dinged from the lower rate before.

- Fusilade II @ .6oz/1000
- 41% Glyphosate @ 8oz/1000
- MSO @ .5oz/1000

 
#7 ·
You may want to apply the kill rounds earlier in the day for maximum effectiveness. I googled around some agricultural studies on glyphosate and early mornings and late evenings (heavy dew) were the least effective. IIRC, they also noted it was more effective during photosynthesis hours.

It'll take a good 6-8 days to see the start of results (broadleaf weeds will be faster) and 14-21 to see the full effects when you are avoiding diquat.
 
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Chadwicktr said:
You may want to apply the kill rounds earlier in the day for maximum effectiveness. I googled around some agricultural studies on glyphosate and early mornings and late evenings (heavy dew) were the least effective. IIRC, they also noted it was more effective during photosynthesis hours.

It'll take a good 6-8 days to see the start of results (broadleaf weeds will be faster) and 14-21 to see the full effects when you are avoiding diquat.
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Thanks for the advice on the daytime sprays. I will continue my normal pattern of day time applications. Will post pictures of the lawn here in a bit. She's getting CRISPY! The neighbors are already losing their minds :lol:
 
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9/26/22 Update

She's getting crispy. Amazing how strong the weeds are still going and some patches of common trying to green up.









Crazy to see how much the sunlight affects the efficiency of the herbicide. You can see here where the shade is the grass is still much greener than where it's exposed to sun.



Went ahead and got my quarterly app of Demand Duo applied to perimeter of the house and shed today. Have yet to find anything that works better for perimeter at 10$ per quarter.

 
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No updates for the lawn except its getting crispy. Going to let it sit another week or so and then put down some Fert and give it some water to push anything else up.

Did manage to pressure wash the whole house from foundation to gutters today. Going to get the driveway and back patio done this week.

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Not many updates on the lawn lately. I’ve been super busy at my shop and catching up on other things around the house. The lawn is still crispy and I am starting to see some weeds pop up. Planning to throw some fert soon and give it a few weeks before another app of Glyphosate and Fusilade. On another note we did welcome a new puppy to the house that can’t wait to enjoy the new Tahoma 31 next year.
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Soil Test results came back today.

Looks like my pH has dropped from 6.66 last year to 5.62 this year. I am disappointed to find that the "SoilKit" that I used last year doesn't even show the measured amounts of the NPK macros. From the looks of this I will be doing a nice heavy dose of N and K before my sprigging and also adding some lime to bring the pH up to where Bermuda likes to live 5.5-7.
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Been awhile since I’ve updated here.

I was gone on a work trip for about 22 days. Got home Thursday to see the weeds have made a comeback along with some common Bermuda. The plan going forward is the following.

1. Spray another round of Glyphosate and Fusilade next week

2. Power rake dead material out

3. Bury downspouts to pop-up emitters

3. 21 yards of masonry sand hauled in and leveled

4. Spray another round of Glyphosate early April

5. Pickup 3 pallets of Tahoma 31 from @legacyturffarms99

6. Chop sod into sprigs and spread

In the meantime, I’ve now entered that black hole that is reel mowing thanks to @Redtwin

Slightly used Flex21
Needs the engine rebuilt as it smokes on cold startup
Reel needs backlapped
Need to purchase grass catcher for scalping
Groomer doesn’t work (May look into repairing)

For now this will be a great starter for me and I’m more than excited and can’t thank Redtwin enough for getting me started! I will post pictures here of the engine rebuild. I will probably go a little further and tear it down and give everything fresh paint as well. Also borrowed an 8’ drag from him for my leveling. Well here she is! I can’t wait to get started!!
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Goodies arrived today. New grass catcher, spare belts, 120 grit lapping compound and a "free" T shirt. Engine rebuild kit should arrive soon. You can check out my rebuild journal here.

www.thelawnforum.com

Flex21 - FE120/D - Rebuild Journal

Hey everyone. Wanted to go ahead and start this thread here for anyone who may be working on a Flex21 or Greensmaster with an FE120 in the future. I have noticed that short of @Reel Low Dad and his YouTube videos there aren't many in depth repair videos for this engine or how to remove/rebuild...
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#23 ·
Finally got around to getting the downspouts done today. Minus one that I’m waiting on my gutter guy to come and move the downspout for. Major undertaking here with all of the obstacles but managed to cause zero damage in the name of progression for once! Cheers!

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#27 ·
$1000 for 3 pallets vs $8100 for enough sod to do the whole thing isn’t quite a small difference. I have the patience to wait the 3-4 months for full fill in.

Ya, the neighbors weeds are something else but a fence will be going up this year as well so that will help keep a lot of their clippings away and I also will be spraying along both property lines with Pre emergent next fall when my lawn is ready for it. The neighbors on both sides have said they don’t care that I treat their property lines to help keep them at bay. We’ll see how it goes.
 
#28 ·
Pulled the cutting unit off of the Flex today. Threads completely stripped off of the reel shaft in the middle of backlapping. Plan to weld the nut back on to finish the season this year and then replace with an 8 blade and new bedknife next year. There will be a lot of scalping and rough days ahead for this reel prepping for the sprigs, might as well use it before replacing.

While I had it apart I noticed both drive gears for the reel are pretty much wasted as well as the shaft/bearing unit for the reel drive. Will order new gears and bearing/shaft tomorrow and get it back together next week.

Will finish the backlap and then set the HOC down to .25” and scalp

Next step for the lawn is to have 20 yards of masonry sand brought it and start dragging in preparation for the sprigs! Few months away.

Pictures from today’s adventures
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I received a few DMs with people asking about my mechanical background and tools. I was an ASE diesel and auto tech for 8+ years and now run my own shop as a side business to my 9-5 office job. And for those who asked about tools here is the box I’ve had quite some time now.

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