Mowww's Lawn Journal

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Post by mowww » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:54 am

@jabopy Thanks! Nothing better than a happy dog to certify your lawn as an enjoyable place to be a pancake. Got any flat dog pics you can share?

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Post by mowww » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:57 am

I used about 300 lbs of sand to smooth my transitions from lawn to sidewalk/driveway/patio. Just poured it on and brushed in until my heels and toes couldn’t feel a difference on the edges. Hopefully this will make use of the reel mower easier along the edges.

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Post by Shindoman » Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:02 am

Your lawn looks great. The Electra will be a great mower, especially with the cartridges.

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Post by mowww » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:34 pm

Thanks, @Shindoman .

Today I helped a neighbor dethatch with the verticut cartridge then aerated 5” deep in a heavy wear area that also has poor drainage (see previous photo from side of shed). I did a poor man’s version of a drill and fill. Pulled cores, cleaned up cores, then spread 150lbs of sand focusing on the holes. Finally I swept with the brush cartridge on my Electra.

Here are a few photos with before and after sweeping:
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Post by mowww » Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:01 pm

Today I brought it down to 1 inch and trimmed off the brown winter tops with the Swardman. This thing is a lot of fun.

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Post by NoslracNevok » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:16 am

Looking amazing. How often do you get the compliment/question "Is that turf?" ?
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Post by mowww » Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:51 pm

@NoslracNevok Haha never before! Thank you.

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Post by mowww » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:17 pm

Out and back mowed with the Electra, loving the definition


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Single direction in honor of the Master’s
Things are greening up!

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Post by mowww » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:38 pm

Tomorrow I will be making my first PGR app as my travel schedule is heating up. Shooting for 0.6oz/M.

I am having a lot of fun with the Electra. Shot from this morning:

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Post by Green » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:56 pm

mowww wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:21 pm
Applied my 35-0-5 180 duration w Acelepryn and Dimension last week.
Is the fertilizer supposed to release for 180 days? I'm guessing it was applied at ~3.5 lbs per thousand...? So about 1 lb of N per thousand. What are the coatings/specs for slow release on this stuff?
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Post by g-man » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:55 pm

@mowww I'd this is your first time with pgr and at 1in, I think you should start at a lower rate. Im going to start at 0.2oz/M and then go up to 0.33oz (10mL/M).

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Post by mowww » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:26 am

@Green Yes, 180 days or roughly 25 weeks. I put down at 7.14 lbs/M or 2.5 lbs N/M (0.1 lbs N/wk/M). I have had success with this the past two years giving e even color all season plus great PreM and grub control.

@g-manThanks! I have used Primo in years past on the lawn around 2” at the 0.75 oz rate with success, do you think I will need to dial it all the way down to 0.2 or 0.33 for height difference? You are dead on, it is around an inch in height now. Can I expect 2-3 weeks of regulation at the 0.33 rate? My only fear is coming back in 10 days to a rebounding turf and playing catch up but I appreciate your advice so I don’t over regulate it to start the season.

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Post by mowww » Mon Apr 15, 2019 1:36 pm

@Green Here are the specs (minus the Acelepryn and Dimension): https://assetcloud01.roccommerce.net/fi ... -label.pdf

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Post by Green » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:13 pm

mowww wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:26 am
@Green Yes, 180 days or roughly 25 weeks. I put down at 7.14 lbs/M or 2.5 lbs N/M (0.1 lbs N/wk/M). I have had success with this the past two years giving e even color all season plus great PreM and grub control.
Wow, assuming normal percent AIs, that is a lot of Chlorantraniliprole going down (and Dimension, too). Thanks for the spec sheet for the fertilizer component. I will check it out. So, with this approach, when do you fertilize the next time, if ever?
Front: Northern mix - mostly TTTF, KBG, TTPR. Back: Firecracker and Bullseye TTTF with America, Rugby 2, Bewitched KBG. Upper Side: Mostly TTPR, KBG. Lower Side: similar to front. Low-input: TF/FF, KBG, PR. Always seeding somewhere or fighting Triv.

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Post by mowww » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:35 pm

@Green It is a 0.15% Dimension and 0.058% Acelepryn. Near the high labeled rates for both as standalones but not quite there if I did my math correctly.

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The Acelepryn rate was lower than I had thought. It is essentially a 13 oz liquid rate.
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Post by mowww » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:49 pm

Unfortunately, my neighbor went to the hospital last night and won’t be able to tend to his lawn for quite a while. I do the same fertility on his lawn as my own so there will be plenty of growth. Took the opportunity to test out the mud flap striper. Cut his at 2.5” according to the Exmark height gauge but it feels higher.

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Post by Green » Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:46 pm

mowww wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:35 pm
@Green It is a 0.15% Dimension and 0.058% Acelepryn. Near the high labeled rates for both as standalones but not quite there if I did my math correctly.

Edit:
The Acelepryn rate was lower than I had thought. It is essentially a 13 oz liquid rate.
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Yeah, you're right...the Chlorantraniliprole is going down at only a slightly higher rate than when I use 0.067% Acelepryn at 3.5 lbs per thousand. This year, I'm using Grubex brand, which has an even higher concentration (0.08%), so I apply at 2.88 lbs per thousand with that one. Your rate is only slightly higher...not like my neighbor who applies the 0.067 stuff in April and again in July at full rate, lol (no one needs that much!)

Your Dimension rate is way higher than mine, though. I'm guessing that you don't seed in the late Summer, and like to keep a near-season-long pre-M barrier. That's fine if it serves your purpose.

Do you think the polymer coated stuff in that product releases equally well in the cooler Spring and Fall weather as in the very hot Summer weather?
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Post by mowww » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:18 pm

Green wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 7:46 pm
mowww wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:35 pm
@Green It is a 0.15% Dimension and 0.058% Acelepryn. Near the high labeled rates for both as standalones but not quite there if I did my math correctly.

Edit:
The Acelepryn rate was lower than I had thought. It is essentially a 13 oz liquid rate.
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Do you think the polymer coated stuff in that product releases equally well in the cooler Spring and Fall weather as in the very hot Summer weather?
It seems to release evenly, yes. It may also be a function of what the plant is actually taking up during these times of year. While the Duration CR may be releasing more N, the turf could be respiring more at night and mitigating the extra energy and N that would have otherwise gone to top growth.

Here is a photo from November 2017 after a single app on April 10, 2017:

The color and density was consistent all year long

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Post by Green » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:25 pm

@mowww, it's great to see someone here using such a product and commenting about it. The idea intrigued me when I heard about it last year.

So, is that it for the entire year, or do you fertilize again later in the year?
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Post by mowww » Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:29 pm

@Green Thanks. That has been it for the entire year the past two years. I think it is sold at Menards branded as “Simp1ify” on the retail side.

This year I might play around with some liquid micros as well and leave check plots.

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