LiquidStone's 2021 Lawn Renovation - Mazama KBG (Denver, CO)

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@uts My window was so tight today. It rained pretty much all mid morning and afternoon. If I had been out around 7 It may have worked but it was too close to tell. Oh well, I feel good about my schedule. Thanks for chiming in!

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6/30 - Had my Dad mow the front yard so it didn't get too tall before coming back from Vacation

7/5 - Mowed the front at 2.75"

7/7 - Applied a mixture of:
.25lbs N/M AMS
4.57oz/M Glyphosate
.3oz/M Surfactant

7/7 - Got a good sized piece of tupperware to seed in for plugs in the future. I'll probably do a couple more of these for the heck of it and i'll likely need it. I used straight native soil. They are about 2 sq ft total. On one half I threw down the equivalent of 1ish lbs N/M of Milo. I tried to throw down the equivalent of 2lbs/M of my Mazama but my scale isn't accurate enough so I'm sure it was more around 3lbs/M.

From here i'll start fallowing daily. I've still got a lot to do. I ended up purchasing all new sprinkler heads to replace some of the impacts in my system. I have 6 impacts to swap to gear driven heads. I'll start doing this once I see good kill. I'll also be adding a zone for a drip system to go to the back yard garden. Let the fun begin!
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No turning back now!! Let’s goooooo
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OnTheLawn wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 6:34 pm
No turning back now!! Let’s goooooo
:D You said it!

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You know you’re sick when you come home excited to see how much more deader the lawn has become.

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lbb091919 wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:32 pm
You know you’re sick when you come home excited to see how much more deader the lawn has become.
Haha. Sick and twisted indeed. You’ve got a head start on me.

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I haven't updated here in a bit.

7/16 - Trimmed more branches from the large tree in the front to allow more sunlight in. It is still pretty filtered and I'm sure I will have a tough time with coverage in this area. If it is really tough, I can always throw down some TTTF. It'll be a good little experiment. I also removed some large rocks that were next to my sidewalk leading up to the house that have been driving me insane since I moved in.

7/18 - This morning I put down my third app of Gly. The grass is pretty widespread dead but I still had a few strips that needed more. This will likely be my last app prior to bringing in top soil. I will be dethatching this week in order to get all that dead material up and bagged. More than likely, I will have top soil delivered this Friday or Saturday.

Here are some time comparisons of how much sun the front section by the tree gets:

8am (prior to trimming more):
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Noon (prior to trimming more):
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4pm (after trimming):
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Side yard shot to show the lovely kill:
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Bonus pic of my dog enjoying the grass that still exists in the back:
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Liquidstone wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 4:49 pm
Bonus pic of my dog enjoying the grass that still exists in the back:
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Haha I love the pic of the dog keeping an eye on the grass that’s still alive. Nothing happening on his watch!

It will be interesting to watch how the grass fills in under the big tree. I bet it’ll get there eventually with just KBG, just may take a season or two. That side yard is going to be money though.

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Nice work on the trim, think that’s going to come in very nicely.

Looking forward to following along!
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Mark2 wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 5:05 pm
Haha I love the pic of the dog keeping an eye on the grass that’s still alive. Nothing happening on his watch!

It will be interesting to watch how the grass fills in under the big tree. I bet it’ll get there eventually with just KBG, just may take a season or two. That side yard is going to be money though.
Haha, I reno’d a few sections in the back this spring and put up fencing that he was not a fan of whatsoever. He likes his grass. The tree area will be interesting for sure. A good test for Mazama and I’m hopeful that you’re right about a season or two.

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I just walked the front yard this evening. Last Gly app was on 7/18 and I felt like I did a good job at hitting the areas that were still showing some sign of life. Well, some areas (very few) still look like they are doing their best to hang on and are still sporting a bit of green.

Thoughts on hitting it with another spot app of Gly tomorrow morning? This would be my 4th app but I would likely not blanket spray.

I plan to dethatch tomorrow and aerate on Friday. Saturday morning I will receive top soil and start to level out and spread.

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I’d give it a bit. Ideally you want gly to work slowly and not overload it. You want it to work through the entire plant and into the root system. You’ll have plenty of time to hit any spots later on that manage to hang on. Once you get the soil down just make sure you’re watering frequently to get potential weed seeds to germinate and knock em out.

If you do see any grass still holding on, you can make apps of gly right up until seed down and be fine.
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OnTheLawn wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:22 pm
I’d give it a bit. Ideally you want gly to work slowly and not overload it. You want it to work through the entire plant and into the root system. You’ll have plenty of time to hit any spots later on that manage to hang on. Once you get the soil down just make sure you’re watering frequently to get potential weed seeds to germinate and knock em out.

If you do see any grass still holding on, you can make apps of gly right up until seed down and be fine.
Appreciate it man! Already getting a bit ahead of myself. Always good to get another perspective. Thanks

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Liquidstone wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:03 pm
I just walked the front yard this evening. Last Gly app was on 7/18 and I felt like I did a good job at hitting the areas that were still showing some sign of life. Well, some areas (very few) still look like they are doing their best to hang on and are still sporting a bit of green.

Thoughts on hitting it with another spot app of Gly tomorrow morning? This would be my 4th app but I would likely not blanket spray.

I plan to dethatch tomorrow and aerate on Friday. Saturday morning I will receive top soil and start to level out and spread.
We’ll be spreading soil at the same time. Mines getting delivered on Friday morning.

Good call on dethatching before aerating. I tried to use my raked up cores to fill in a low spot and there was so much dead grass mixed in that it became spongy. Probably gonna shovel it up and use just topsoil.

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Make a plan to get the topsoil settling into the old soil...I went with an asphalt roller but anything with a heavy drum will do!

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lbb091919 wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:33 pm
We’ll be spreading soil at the same time. Mines getting delivered on Friday morning.

Good call on dethatching before aerating. I tried to use my raked up cores to fill in a low spot and there was so much dead grass mixed in that it became spongy. Probably gonna shovel it up and use just topsoil.
I believe that. Good call on just using topsoil.
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Make a plan to get the topsoil settling into the old soil...I went with an asphalt roller but anything with a heavy drum will do!
Haha! I still love that gif you have rolling (no pun) around. I'll be renting a roller and will make sure to roll it often during the fallowing phase to let it incorporate and settle. I should just buy one but they are so bulky and I only have a single car garage...

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I can’t remember who suggested it, but pulling the SunJoe backwards is so much more effective. I didn’t do the entire yard this way but up against the driveway/sidewalk I pulled it into the concrete and it just shredded everything down to the dirt. It was amazing!

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lbb091919 wrote:
Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:20 pm
I can’t remember who suggested it, but pulling the SunJoe backwards is so much more effective. I didn’t do the entire yard this way but up against the driveway/sidewalk I pulled it into the concrete and it just shredded everything down to the dirt. It was amazing!
Man you aren’t lying. I just got done dethatching and I should have just done the whole thing backwards. It pulls up so much more material. That dethatching prepping for seed down is no easy task. I’m glad I’m done. I ran the rotary over the yard after to pick up the debris and it just didn’t quite cut it. I really don’t want to rake the whole thing.. I may end up using the blower and pile it up on the sidewalk and driveway. That isn’t super effective either though. Plans to aerate tomorrow afternoon.

Also, my entire neighborhood thinks I’m out of my effing mind. It’s great.

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I did the same with the rotary. It was Dust Bowl 2021. Had a record number of people out walking last night all staring at me thinking “what is this lunatic doing”

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Had a good day today. A lot of work but good prep for seed down. Also, had a UPS driver that stopped along his route and he said, "you doing a reno?" That honestly made my day. Talked about the seed I was putting down and it was a breath of fresh air to talk to someone that knew what I was doing and why. Good dude. Told him to swing by again to check up on the headway. He also mentioned that he remembered delivering my seed. Good stuff.

Started off this morning using my blower to collect more dead clippings into the road to sweep up. Honestly, this step could have been avoided, I wish I would have just made more passes with the rotary to suck up all the dead stuff. From there, I aerated (the Home Depot aerator I rented was sub par for my intentions). I may have not had some of the soil as wet as it needed to be to pull substantial cores but it is what it is, lesson learned. After that, I made multiple passes with the rotary to collect more dead clippings and mulch the cores. I feel like my seed bed is looking pretty good at the moment, especially since I am bringing in 8 yards of topsoil in the morning. Like @ibb091919 mentioned, I also pulled out the string trimmer to clean up some low spots.

A few pics of where I am at:

Side yard:
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Front Yard:
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Close up:
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Image of some little green grass that is just trying it's best to hang on:
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A good majority of the surface:
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