Lust4Lawn 2021 Front/Side 100% Bluebank (Reno'd Fall 2020)

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Lust4Lawn 2021 Front/Side 100% Bluebank (Reno'd Fall 2020)

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I reno'd this area in the fall of 2020. My past lawn journal is here: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=22765

We had a very snowy winter here in NJ and a few months of not seeing the grass. After the snow melted we are all left with some areas that were significantly matted down and some snow mold. I did not put any nitrogen down after the grass had stopped growing. This area is ~3600 square feet.

I have soil samples in the mail headed to Waypoint and hope to have some details next week.

3/26 Prodiamine at 5g/1000 with a healthy overspray into my neighbor's yard so I technically sprayed 4K square feet and used 20g of product. I added 2oz of TurfMark to the 4 gallon backpack sprayer to track the area sprayed and give me an artificial green-up.

4/3 .25 N/1K via AMS (with double the water I normally use)

4/5 2 lbs of SOP/1K

4/13 .25 N/1K via AMS, K4L Extreme Blend 10g/1k

4/24 Sprayed Sulfentrazone (39.4%) 0.25 tsp in 1 gallon of water over areas with Nutsedge, ~1000 square feet (2oz per acre rate)

4/27 .2 N/1K via AMS with Bifen IT .6 oz per K

5/3 2 lbs of SOP/1K, 10lbs of Disease-Ex (Azoxy) ~3lbs per K

5/7 .2 N/1K via AMS with Imidicloprid @ .6 oz per K

5/11 Sprayed SpeedZone 1.4oz/K blanket on the entire area.

5/14 .2 N/1K via AMS, K4L Extreme Blend 10g/1k (1.1 lbs of N total to date)

5/24 .2 N/1K via AMS, K4L Extreme Blend 10g/1k in evening (1.3 lbs of N total to date)

5/25 1 oz/1K of Propiconazole 14.3 (Watered in immediately)

5/27 2 lbs of SOP/1K, 2 lbs/K Triazicide for ants

6/12 5g/K Prodiamine, 2 oz/K Propiconazole 14.3, .2 N/1K via AMS, K4L Extreme Blend 10g/1k (Watered in) (1.5 lbs of N total to date)

6/18 0.15 N/1K via AMS, 2 oz/1K FeATURE, 0.15 oz per K T-Nex (YTD GDD 1421)

6/26 2 oz/K Propiconazole 14.3, 4lbs/K DiseaseEx (Azoxy)

7/1 2 lbs of SOP/1K

7/4 .2 lbs N of Carbon Earth 8-1-8 (This stuff is old! 25% of this is slow)

7/5 .09 lbs N via Urea (8.8 oz DEF/K), 0.25 oz/K Citric Acid, 2 oz/K FeATURE, 0.3 oz/K T-Nex at 7pm with AM irrigation

7/16 Sprayed sulfentrazone at .125 oz/K only over an area that has Nutsedge. Then sprayed Bifen at 1 oz/K.

7/22 .1 lbs N via Urea (10 oz DEF/K), 3.5 oz/K Thiophanate-methyl 46.2%, 2 oz/K Propiconazole 14.3,

7/26 2lbs/K Bayer 24 hour grub killer

8/05 Disease-Ex (Azoxy) 4lbs/K

8/20 Azoxy .38 oz/K, 1.75 oz/K Thiophanate-methyl 46.2%, 1 oz/K Bifen IT,. 0.5 oz/K imidacloprid, 0.1 lbs of N via DEF all mixed in one batch.

8/29 .5 lbs N of Carbon Earth 8-1-8

9/18 Azoxy .38 oz/K, Propi 1 oz/K, .3 lbs N via DEF watered in.

10/3 5g/K Prodiamine, .25 lbs N via DEF watered in

10/23 .5 lbs N AMS (Skipping areas with Poa Triv)

10/30. .5 lbs N AMS
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Re: Lust4Lawn 2021 Front/Side 100% Bluebank

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I got my soil test back from Waypoint. This area was renovated last fall and my PH has climbed from 6.5 to 7.0 which I guess is from the very hard water that I have here. Past results from last fall are here: LINK

I paid Waypoint the extra ~$3.50 for the nitrogen levels in the soil and was a bit shocked at how low they were. I knew about the low potassium from last year but had set that aside for this spring as to not create issues with the reno.

Nitrogen Needs:
I only spoonfed AMS last fall during the reno and provided no nitrogen after the growth slowed down. How should I proceed this spring? I have a lot of granular AMS that I can spread or dissolve and spray.

Potassium:
I plan on following @g-man's soil remediation guide LINK and spread 2lbs/1K of SOP monthly for 5 months to get to 5 total lbs of K as the test calls for.

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Re: Lust4Lawn 2021 Front/Side 100% Bluebank (Reno'd Fall 2020)

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Hey buddy - good to hear from you this year!

Good strategy on getting that P up.

For the N - slow & steady wins the race. Spoonfeed 0.25 lbs N per week, or 0.5 lbs N every other week now. Use the AMS that you have. You can use granular, or, Spray.

I'd also recommend getting some slow-release N into the ground. If you can find leftover Carbon-X products that would work great. XGRN 8-1-8 is one that I love. If you can find that put down 0.5lbs N per K of that next week or so.

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Re: Lust4Lawn 2021 Front/Side 100% Bluebank (Reno'd Fall 2020)

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JerseyGreens wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:48 pm
Hey buddy - good to hear from you this year!

Good strategy on getting that K up.

For the N - slow & steady wins the race. Spoonfeed 0.25 lbs N per week, or 0.5 lbs N every other week now. Use the AMS that you have. You can use granular, or, Spray.

I'd also recommend getting some slow-release N into the ground. If you can find leftover Carbon-X products that would work great. XGRN 8-1-8 is one that I love. If you can find that put down 0.5lbs N per K of that next week or so.
Thanks for checking in! I'm not seeing the consistent green-up that I see in your journal but there is some amazing color in areas that are warming up the soil more quickly. It's going to be exciting here in a few weeks.

I'm planning on spraying the AMS at .25 lbs of N per week. I just called Levitt's and they still have CX in stock in case you were looking to stock up. I was just there a few days ago to get a Solo backpack sprayer part that I ended up not needing. It's not like I need an excuse to go there and browse.

I'm going to try to get out there today for a bit of deep cleaning and maybe run the manual reel around a bit. Then I can spread that MOP. It looks like the rain is going to be sparse for a week or two so I'm hesitant to spay the AMS yet without having irrigation running to wash it off of the leaves.

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Re: Lust4Lawn 2021 Front/Side 100% Bluebank (Reno'd Fall 2020)

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I hear ya bud. I put down my XGRN a bit "early" but it was before rain so had to do it and I completely understand.

Thanks for letting me know about that XGRN. The jersey folks following your journal might end up there before I do!!

It will green up before you know it!!

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Re: Lust4Lawn 2021 Front/Side 100% Bluebank

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Lust4Lawn wrote:
Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:09 pm
I paid Waypoint the extra ~$3.50 for the nitrogen levels in the soil and was a bit shocked at how low they were...
I think this is normal for a spring test. Most of the N applied last fall gets lost by leaching into groundwater or to denitrification processes that reduce NO3- to N2O and N2 which are lost as gasses into the atmosphere. So, low N in the spring doesn't necessarily mean that you didn't apply enough N last fall. This is probably why most people don't test for it in lawns. It's not really informative and shouldn't affect your plans for this year.

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I broke out the Honda HRX and mowed yesterday at 1.25" to get a lot of the sticks, mulch fragments and whatever else was out there up and out of the turf. Then I mowed with a Sun Joe manual reel mower on the two lowest settings just to get a feel for it. I'm not sure what the actual HOC is as this was a unit replaced under warranty but this unit was significantly better than the previous unit that was originally purchased as reconditioned.

The areas near my walkway that take advantage of the heat from my sidewalk seem to be greening up sooner than other areas. There is plenty of straw-colored grass all over.

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Today I sprayed .25 lbs of N. Normally I would mix 4lbs of AMS in ~3.5 gallons of water. Today I used 8 gallons of water since I do not have my irrigation turned on just yet and I don't forecast rain for nearly a week.

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I opened up the irrigation a few days ago and got some water on the lawn. I'm a bit concerned with the amount of dead blades in the lawn and hoping to see some recovery. I have fungicides at the ready but I'm really not sure how to proceed at this point since temps are in the 40's at night and 60-72 during the day and I wouldn't consider that favorable for fungus. I'm not too impressed with my green up at this point. I raked the entire area early when the snow melted but recovery seems slow.

Should I be pushing N2 harder? I'm looking forward to the feedback.

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Close up of a typical area showing limited green up.
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Found a few of these in one area.
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We had some good rain here for a few days and today was the first break. I sprayed .25 lbs of N via AMS and 10g of extreme blend per 1K.

Things are greening up and I'm feeling better about the condition. I do have some nutsedge that I will have to deal with a little later. Looking at something with sulfentrazone or maybe Halosulfuron but one study that I had read had better results with the sulfentrazone.

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This area of my curb strip has struggled. I was concerned about the PH here due to the amount of pine needles that drop here and actually took a soil sample for giggles. End result, 7.0! The neighbor managed to scrape a good chunk of the grass next to the sidewalk trying to do me a favor over the winter during a heavy storm. I sprayed half of this strip with prodiamine to see how well it works on the bare spots and if the KBG will spread faster in the treated vs. control area.
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Green up will come, KBG is slow to wake up and this winter was hard.

Those yellowish blades are just waiting for the chlorophyll to fill in. It’s possible it fungus but highly unlikely. Even if so, it will grow out of it in 2 weeks.

Patience is the hard part, but that’s all that’s needed now.

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I had some nutsedge that survived my multiple glyphosate applications last fall. I ended up locally buying some Sulfentrazone 39% in a 2.2 oz bottle for ~$25. I sprayed at 2oz/acre which comes to 0.25 teaspoons in a gallon for 1000 square feet.

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I waited 2 days and mowed.
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The neighbors "lawn" is on the left side of the photo. Not the type of domination line anybody wants to have.
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@Lust4Lawn unlikely to have nutsedge this early. That looks like poa t.

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g-man wrote:
Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:53 pm
@Lust4Lawn unlikely to have nutsedge this early. That looks like poa t.
Ugh. I have a few photos of what I have found in the lawn recently in this area.

These are from this week:
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This is one from about a month ago.
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Not nutsedge.

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g-man wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 11:49 am
Not nutsedge.
Yeah, I not sure what this stuff is at this point.

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I mowed 3 days ago, sprayed .2 of N with AMS, added midicloprid for grub preventions before a solid rain event about 24 hours later(+0.7").

Now 4 days later I have a ton of brown tassels from trees but I wanted to blanket spray for weeds and didn't want to cut.
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I had some clover in a few areas that I sprayed with SpeedZone (1.4oz/K) and this is what it looks like this morning 14 hours later.
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I got a nice mow in today after work. Things are looking pretty nice right now.

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This looks fantastic man!!!

Might be too early but I love the BlueBank.

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JerseyGreens wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 8:25 pm
This looks fantastic man!!!

Might be too early but I love the BlueBank.
Thanks, BlueBank Brother! The reno area is starting to hit its stride but the cold overnight temperatures in the area are keeping the progress suspenseful.

My backyard area looks pretty weak and I have that in a different journal since it is so different. I'm hoping to reno the backyard too but I don't think that I have the sun for enough hours in the back to carry a KBG mono unless maybe Mazama but even then I may have some problems and may be forced to do a mix of fescue. I'm taking some photos throughout the day of that area to show the sun's progression and get some feedback from the board.

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