MJR12284 Fall 2021 KBG Frontyard Reno (NJ)

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MJR12284 Fall 2021 KBG Frontyard Reno (NJ)

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Hello! I renovated half of my back yard last year and had a great time sharing it with you all and so I decided to finish the other half of the back yard and also do the front yard this year as well! Here are the details of my front yard reno. I’ll separately document my backyard reno and link to it below reno once it’s under way. I’ll update the timeline below as the reno progresses.

Location: Madison, NJ
Seed/Cultivars: 100% KBG (Navy, Award, Legend, NuGlade, Rugby II, After Midnight, Blue Note, Everest)
Area: 1,500 sq. ft.

TIMELINE

July 31 - 1st Round Gly (6oz/M) with AMS (1 Tablespoon)
August 7 - Scalp and 2nd Round Gly
August 14 - Spread 5 Yards Topsoil
August 24 - SEED DOWN
3rd Round Gly
Spread 3 Lbs KBG
Rake and Roll Seed
Tenacity (4oz/Acre Rate)
Spread 4 Bales Peat Moss
I watered for 30 minutes immediately after (2 pm). Then for 15 minutes 2 hours later (4pm). And another 10 minutes 2 hours later (6pm).
September 1 - 6 inches of rain from Hurricane Ida.
September 3 - Dropped 2lbs more seed.
Last edited by MJR12284 on Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:45 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: MJR12284 Fall 2021 KBG Frontyard Reno (NJ)

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Seed down day. Here’s after throwing down 4 bales of Peat Moss.


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Re: MJR12284 Fall 2021 KBG Frontyard Reno (NJ)

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Looks good. Have you figured out how much water you are putting down in 15 minutes?

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@Lust4Lawn I haven’t done an irrigation audit just yet. So far just making sure the soil stays moist. Once established I’ll do a formal audit.

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Looks great! Looking forward to seeing how it progresses!

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Re: MJR12284 Fall 2021 KBG Frontyard Reno (NJ)

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DAS 6

Some good germination last night into this morning, right on time for KBG. I don’t think there is enough overall germination to start counting DAG. I think that will be tomorrow.

There is very little germ in the center of the yard, which is where 3-4 sprinkler heads converge with their coverage. I know it’s very early but I’m afraid there could be some seed rot from too much wetness. Thoughts? I’ll continue to assess over the next couple days and may try to dial back the sprinklers a bit.


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It looks a little to wet especially with a good amount of peat moss you put down could lead to seed rot. Maybe cut back a little water especially with this high humidity it will hold moisture even longer.
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I agree @M32075. I'm going to let the yard dry out a bit today and see if that helps. Forecast is calling for 3-4 inches of rain from Hurricane Ida tomorrow night into Thursday so I suppose that won't help either!

I'm at DAS 7 -- wondering if I should throw down some more seed in those bare areas after I see what the damage looks like after this coming rain storm.

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MJR12284 wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:05 am
I agree @M32075. I'm going to let the yard dry out a bit today and see if that helps. Forecast is calling for 3-4 inches of rain from Hurricane Ida tomorrow night into Thursday so I suppose that won't help either!

I'm at DAS 7 -- wondering if I should throw down some more seed in those bare areas after I see what the damage looks like after this coming rain storm.
Do you have extra seed in case of a washout?
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@M32075 Fortunately I have plenty (plus a reserve of my 80/20 TTTF/KBG mix from last year’s reno if needed).

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And the hard stuff isn’t even coming down for a while now!


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As mentioned in my other journal, we got hit pretty hard with the rain from Hurricane Ida. I went out yesterday and raked up all the rocks that had floated to surface from the top soil I had previously spread. There was a lot. Whatever grass did sprout appeared to have stayed in place, which I was happy about.

Given the amount of washout and lack of germination in a large spot in the middle (where the 3 sprinkler heads converge), I decided to spread the remaining 2lbs of my KBG seeds this morning over the 1500 ft area, focusing on the middle area of the lawn. I raked in with a Garden Weasel since the ground was still kind of muddy from all the rain. I then spread what I had left of the Peat Moss. Here are some pics from right before I dropped more seed this morning.


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DAS 12

So there is some decent germination from my original seed down date (Aug 24) even after the washout from Hurricane Ida. Most of the concentrated germination is out by the road and near the flower bed in front of my house. There is still the large center area where there is little to no sprouts yet. I reseeded on Sept 1 and those seeds have definitely not germinated yet.

I’m struggling with whether to call today (or maybe tomorrow?) DAG 1. What do you guys think?

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DAG 1

Even more germination coming through despite the washout from Hurricane Ida. I need to remember to be patient with the front yard reno when the backyard reno TTTF is in full on sprout mode now!

For the sake of consistency with my backyard reno, I’m counting DAG as of yesterday.

I will post some pics tomorrow.

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I thought the first day you see grass pop up would be DAG.
Mine is TTTF/KBG, so it came up quickly, but I guess I should delay calling my DAG by a day to two.

Good to hear things are coming through! Seems seed is pretty resilient.

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@San I start counting DAG once there is a good amount of even germination throughout the entire lawn. It’s definitely a subjective calculation so I could be off by a day or two.

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DAG 5
DAS 7 (from 2nd seeding)
DAS 17 (from 1st seeding)

I’m happy to see some decent germination in the center of my lawn where I suffered the worst of the washout from Hurricane Ida. I focused on adding more seed here during my 2nd seeding so this section is going to lag behind the rest by at least a week. I’m only 7 DAS from my 2nd seeding so I am eager to see how this improves over the next week or so. Trying to remain patient…


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Looking good! Especially considering all the rain events you had to deal with. I’m sure spots you reseeded will fill in soon!

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DAG 12
DAS 14 (from 2nd seeding
DAS 24 (from 1st seeding)

The middle section continues to lag behind but there appears to be pretty even germination there as we sit here at DAG 12. The overhead view looks awful but at ground level you can definitely see good germination. My concern of course is whether this section will thicken up. I know I’m still within the germination window so hoping some more seeds germinate over the next week. The seeds that germinated from my 1st seed down are starting to spread, which is good.

Also, I am seeing a lot of weed pressure amd wondering if/when I should hand pull them? My Tenacity at seed down was most surely washed away by Hurricane Ida. These look like grassy weeds too. The purple stems (Triv?) scare me.



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Pulled a bunch of what appear to be some grassy weeds yesterday.


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