Seed Label Concern?

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Seed Label Concern?

Post by Duke » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:40 pm

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Ordered Hancock's TTTF Blend (10lbs) and it came today.

When it arrived I was surprised at the title Southern Fescue Blend (although I checked the seed types online with what I ordered and the 3 types check out), so it is what I, in fact, ordered.

But then saw other crop at .41% Didn't expect that.

And Noxious Seed: 9 Hairy Chess???? What the heck is that? I never saw any seed labeled with a Noxious Seed or Weed, even the stuff off of big box store shelves!

What to make of it all?

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Re: Seed Label Concern?

Post by Socks » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:18 pm

Personally, I wouldn’t put that down. .41% is a lot and state to state differs in what is considered other crop vs weed. The last thing you want to do is introduce any Poa A/T or you’ll be struggling with it for years.

Let’s just say for arguments sake there are 500,000 seeds per pound for TTTF (it is around that number - higher for KBG lower for PRG because of seed size). That means that bag contains roughly 5,000,000 seeds total of which roughly 20,000 are “other crop” seeds.
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Re: Seed Label Concern?

Post by Duke » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:36 pm

I guess in retrospect, I should have asked these questions before ordering. I wish they would just list this sort of stuff on the site. I would have totally stayed away.

I emailed them, so I'll see what they say.

Thanks!
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Re: Seed Label Concern?

Post by jeffman2 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:58 pm

I’m really surprised. I thought Hancock was supposed to be a good seed supplier. I ordered from hogan this year and their service was great and I have good germination.
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Re: Seed Label Concern?

Post by jeffman2 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:04 pm

I actually emailed Hancock when I was looking into seed and asked them about the weed seed and other crop seed in their tttf mix and they emailed me the label. I will not be using their seeds in my yard. Too many weed seeds and other crop seeds.

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Re: Seed Label Concern?

Post by Duke » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:14 pm

WOW! Other crop there is almost 5%! No noxious seed, however. Better than mine. I have never seen anything other than "None Found" next to Noxious Seed/Weed on a seed label. I think that is what surprised me the most. Even more than the .41% other crop.

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Re: Seed Label Concern?

Post by jeffman2 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:21 pm

Ya my opinion is this blend is crap. Maybe Hancock has some other blends that are good i wouldn’t use this one. You might be better using something you can get local at an agway or SiteOne. I have heard good things about the GCI TTTF seed too.
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Re: Seed Label Concern?

Post by pennstater2005 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:26 pm

So exactly 9 hairy chess weed seeds? Maybe you could identify them and pick them out :lol:

That is seriously a high percentage numbers of bad stuff though.
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Re: Seed Label Concern?

Post by Duke » Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:17 am

pennstater2005 wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:26 pm
So exactly 9 hairy chess weed seeds? Maybe you could identify them and pick them out :lol:

That is seriously a high percentage numbers of bad stuff though.
Seriously.. Lol.

Welp.. I guess I'll cross Hancock off of my list. Stick with GCI and United.

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Re: Seed Label Concern?

Post by Duke » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:37 pm

Just a follow-up: I emailed Hancock Seed and asked about the .41% Other Crop and the 9 Hairy Chess. This was their response:


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Re: Seed Label Concern?

Post by Alias-Doe » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:48 pm

Duke wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:37 pm
Just a follow-up: I emailed Hancock Seed and asked about the .41% Other Crop and the 9 Hairy Chess. This was their response:


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I’m confused with the 9 hairy chest seeds . If they counted them why not just toss them out ?

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Re: Seed Label Concern?

Post by tgreen » Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:53 pm

You might put that label on Oregon seed’s thread. I’ve never seeen noxious weeds other than none found. Was it cheap? I recognize essential. It’s an excellent cultivar. Don’t know the others

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Re: Seed Label Concern?

Post by Kissfromnick » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:16 pm

You got exactly what you pay for. I did the same mistake order from them endup to use only half of the seeds in the areas where I’m not walking. Rest went to trash can.

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Re: Seed Label Concern?

Post by Duke » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:48 pm

tgreen wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:53 pm
You might put that label on Oregon seed’s thread. I’ve never seeen noxious weeds other than none found. Was it cheap? I recognize essential. It’s an excellent cultivar. Don’t know the others
I also have never seen anything listed for Noxious Weeds. It was like $36/10lb bag.

I thought I had heard good things about them from another thread and figured I would try it out, but I won't buy again. It will be GCI and United Seed from here on out. I'll give the rest of the bag to my Dad 😁.

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