Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by Pete1313 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:20 pm

I dont know if I would be so into lawn care and do what i do if my kids didn't enjoy playing on it so much. I got home, mowed the lawn, we ate dinner, and afterwards without me knowing they were all outside. Enjoying the fresh cut and playing the sports they love, barefoot. It's why I do what I do. It was satisfying to see and makes the efforts I put in worth it. Figured I would take a break from how I maintain the lawn and show the why. Grabbed a couple quick pics of them playing and thought I would share.

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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by ronjon84790 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:03 pm

That’s awesome Pete! Makes all the hard work worth it. Keep it up :thumbup: The turf looks sweet!

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Post by pennstater2005 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:12 pm

Awesome @Pete1313!!! I want to come play in your yard :D
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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by KoopHawk » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:15 pm

Look at all those footprints in your stripes. Get off the lawn kids you’re messing it up!!!

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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by iowa jim » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:33 am

Nice to see kids playing on the lawn, seems a lot of kids nowadays all they want to do is play video games and the only thing that gets exercised are there thumbs.

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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by Pete1313 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:59 am

@ronjon84790 Thanks!

@pennstater2005 Come on over, but make sure you take your shoes off first! :D

@KoopHawk :lol: :lol:

@iowa jim it is nice to see, and it is sad that more kids would rather play with their electronics. All the neighborhood kids get out and play alot. My yard seems to usually be the gathering point and I love it!
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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by mribbens » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:38 am

Pete1313 wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:20 pm
I dont know if I would be so into lawn care and do what i do if my kids didn't enjoy playing on it so much. I got home, mowed the lawn, we ate dinner, and afterwards without me knowing they were all outside. Enjoying the fresh cut and playing the sports they love, barefoot. It's why I do what I do. It was satisfying to see and makes the efforts I put in worth it. Figured I would take a break from how I maintain the lawn and show the why. Grabbed a couple quick pics of them playing and thought I would share.

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This, this is why we work so hard, kudos!!! Your lawn is so nice everyone in the neighborhood should enjoy it :)

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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by Pete1313 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:44 am

mribbens wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:38 am
This, this is why we work so hard, kudos!!! Your lawn is so nice everyone in the neighborhood should enjoy it :)
Thanks for the kind words!
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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by forumaccount » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:44 pm

Alex1389 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:11 am
If you’re super bored, I’d love to see a side by side of Mazama vs Bewitched in your yard also.

Hey TLF guys, check out this guy over here bored with his absolutely perfect lawn. :lol:

Jk, Pete, looks amazing as usual.
+1 on that Mazama experiment. Wonderful work, Pete1313.
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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by forumaccount » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:31 pm

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Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:05 am

@g-man I do agree that summer patch is the most likely cause. It is something to monitor in the upcoming years. It is no where near the point to where I want to break my goal of being fungicide free, but like to look back at the logs and figure out what could of made it noticeable and try and make some adjustments for next year. Maybe pushing the soil to stay on the dry end helped earlier in the year, but contributed to the spots starting to show up at this point. Maybe switching up the irrigation strategy at some point during the mid summer might help. The weather here is not as extreme as areas further south, so I would think in most years summer patch would not be as much of a concern for me. Nevertheless, a few spots are showing up. There is some correlation with soil PH, iron, and manganese levels and summer patch. My soil PH is alittle on the high side(7.1 last test) and have been working with elemental sulfur as well as some ammonium sulfate. My soil iron levels are high(239ppm) and although my soil manganese levels are good(83ppm) I wonder with my soil PH and iron levels it could be causing some manganese deficiency and if adding some manganese to the foliar sprays might be a worthwhile addition. A tissue test would be the best way to see if I should add some manganese, but might play around adding alittle to the tank.
I've been having a hard time finding Elemental Sulfur. Maybe I don't know exactly what I'm looking for. My PH is on the high side. I've used a couple different products so far. Can anyone here explain "Elemental Sulfur." I need to bring my PH down from ~7.3. I've tried to find the most "pure" Sulfur products.

This is what I've found and used:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Sta-Green-30-l ... l/50189501
-Doesn't seem to have done much (it's been 3+ months.) I've been researching and Gypsum seems to be more of a temporary solution.

https://www.kelp4less.com/shop/sulfur/
-Almost 2 months later and I still have undissolved granules. PH hasn't moved much, if at all.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/20-lb-Fast- ... /203342315
-Just applied a couple days ago, too soon to comment. First impression is they idssolve easier than the tablets above.

Not intending to hijack, but Elemental Sulfur has been mentioned and I'd be crazy not to ask the pro's.

Ammonium Sulfate sounds intriguing, but as an amateur, I'm hesitant adding nitrogen in this hot weather. I haven't fertilized since June 13th with a 12-12-12 blend (roughly 3.24LB per 1ksqft on the year so far.)

Here I am, ranting again. :lol:
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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by Pete1313 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:51 pm

@forumaccount welcome to TLF! Check for elemental sulfur at places where golf courses and landscapers get their supplies. Updating your location to a more specific area might be helpful in having others help you source it as well as checking in the hometown threads. Also, depending on your soil, elemental sulfur may not be as effective in lowering ph. Gypsum will not lower ph. Those other two products should, depending on your soil. I am far from a pro, and especially when it comes to soil chemistry. I'm learning every day, just like everyone! Ammonium sulfate will have an acidifying effect. 2.8 lbs of ammonium sulfate has a similar acidifying potential to 1 lb of elemental sulfur.
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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by Pete1313 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:46 am

Update. I dropped some ammonium sulfate on 8/10 as well as increased to watering a bit. Mother nature has been helping out with some good rains as well. On 8/17 i did another T-nex, urea, iron app. I upped the T-nex rate to .316 oz/M and this time I added in some Mn Sulfate. These spray apps are slowly getting more stuff added to them. If you look on the right you can see the cost of each product in the spray app. It sums up to $0.55 per 1000 sq ft. Being as cost effective as possible while trying to achieve my goals is something I am constantly keeping an eye on with a larger yard.
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Later in the day I put down my last app of the year of gypsum at around 21 lbs/M. I have been staying on schedule with applying the T-Nex based on GDD and the growth has been very consistant this year. Sometimes during the hottest times it can be every 10-12 days.
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The lawn responded well to the ammonium sulfate on 8/10. There was a point last week where i was considering sending a turf sample to UW to confirm that the spots I have are indeed summer patch, but watching them this weekend and doing my morning dew walks I am more convinced that is what I have today. They are slowly closing up and are not getting worse which is good to see as cooler nights are coming and should get even better recovery soon. I do have some things to think about this winter though and how I will deal with summer patch next year. I don't think it was a tough summer in my area and worry how bad it could be if it was an even tougher year. Summer patch is best dealt with starting in late spring with preventative apps that are timed correctly. I'm confident that I will be fungicide free this year, but not sure that even if I improve on cultural practices if i can keep it at bay during a tougher year.

Here is one of the worst summer patch spots that I will track thru fall and watch the recovery of.
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8/18
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Overall the lawn is still looking good for mid August. I picked up 3 more bags of ammonium sulfate from Conserv FS and in total now I have 7 bags of ammonium sulfate and 1.5 bags of urea to get me thru fall. Here are some current pics of the yard.
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Lastly, here are some updated pics of the tree ring spots that I have been tracking this year. They are closing up which is good to see.
4/21
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5/27
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8/18
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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by ericgautier » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:48 am

Beautiful @Pete1313 !
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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by Pete1313 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:55 am

ericgautier wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:48 am
Beautiful Pete1313 !
Thanks @ericgautier! Your lawn is looking great as well!
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Post by pennstater2005 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:09 pm

Wow.... that that really has filled in nicely! Well done.
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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by Pete1313 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:17 pm

pennstater2005 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:09 pm
Wow.... that that really has filled in nicely! Well done.
They have. When they no longer become an eyesore, you tend to forget about them. That's why it is cool to take pictures and look back. Filling in and recovery, it's the beauty of KBG.

I've been quietly following your reno as well as many others. It has been a rough start with all the rain and no doubt the reno booze budget may need to be increased. In the end it always turns out and look forward to the day 30, 45, 60 pictures!
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Post by pennstater2005 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:24 pm

Pete1313 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:17 pm
pennstater2005 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:09 pm
Wow.... that that really has filled in nicely! Well done.
They have. When they no longer become an eyesore, you tend to forget about them. That's why it is cool to take pictures and look back. Filling in and recovery, it's the beauty of KBG.

I've been quietly following your reno as well as many others. It has been a rough start with all the rain and no doubt the reno booze budget may need to be increased. In the end it always turns out and look forward to the day 30, 45, 60 pictures!
Thanks Pete. And you’re right it ends up looking good in the end. Did the straw you saw on my seed freak you out a bit :lol:
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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by samjonester » Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:51 pm

Looks amazing! I love the color changes as well in the progress pics. It seems to highlight your ability to control your turf like very few people are able to! Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by forumaccount » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:42 pm

Pete1313 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:51 pm
@forumaccount welcome to TLF! Check for elemental sulfur at places where golf courses and landscapers get their supplies. Updating your location to a more specific area might be helpful in having others help you source it as well as checking in the hometown threads. Also, depending on your soil, elemental sulfur may not be as effective in lowering ph. Gypsum will not lower ph. Those other two products should, depending on your soil. I am far from a pro, and especially when it comes to soil chemistry. I'm learning every day, just like everyone! Ammonium sulfate will have an acidifying effect. 2.8 lbs of ammonium sulfate has a similar acidifying potential to 1 lb of elemental sulfur.
I appreciate the info.

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Re: Pete1313's 2019 Lawn Journal

Post by Sinclair » Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:22 pm

The rings around the trees sure are moving now. They’ll be gone this fall by the looks of it!
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